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Lithuanian MPs about homosexuality

“Normal” or “Abnormal”: Lithuanian MPs speak out on homosexuality
 
Sometime ago members of Lithuanian Parliament were asked to state their opinions regarding harsh position of Lithuanian Catholic church hierarchy - “homosexuality is a perversion”.
 
 
“IN FAVOUR”:
   
 
Petras Auštrevičius: “This statement by the church hierarchy shows the continuity of their position. I support and agree with the opinion of the church hierarchy.”
 
Audronis Ažubalis: “I agree with the Church’s position. I find it completely acceptable.”
 
Petras Baguška: “I support the position of the Church. Traditional values are what make it especially dear to me.”
 
Rima Baškienė: “Homosexuality is caused by a psychological disorder, and it is a deviation from the norm. The Church has the right to state this fact.”
 
Rimantas Bašys: “I agree. This decision was made at the right time. In a sense, these people are sick. Of course, it is not their fault; but then the Church does not condemn them.”
 
Danutė Bekintienė: “There is no need to explain why the number of homosexuals is growing. There is more tolerance, that is why. They promote their values even on television. Our tolerance is leading us into danger.”
 
Kazys Bobelis: “I absolutely agree with the Church. Lithuania does not need homosexuals. They are bringing shame on Lithuania by holding their congress in our country. Homosexuality is a disease that has to be treated.”
 
Antanas Bosas: “It goes without saying that homosexuality is a perversion. But we should avoid both extremes: excessive liberalism and harsh attacks.”
 
Bronius Bradauskas: "The Church is right. If these people are sick, let them keep their disease to themselves. Generally speaking, I find the phenomenon of homosexuality incomprehensible. I categorically object to the propagation of homosexuality.”
 
Vytautas Čepas: “The World Health Organization has removed homosexuality from its list of illnesses. Homosexuals have always been and will always be around. But when they demand not only tolerance but also love, this I neither understand nor agree with. In this sense I support the Church.”
 
Vida Marija Čigriejienė: “Homosexuality is a deviation from the norm.”
 
Julius Dautartas: “Here we are talking about Christian traditions, and traditions need to be strongly protected and defended. New winds are breaking a new path, and they often destroy many good things.”
Rimantas Jonas Dagys: "The position of the Church is also my position. The trends that are now emerging in the world show that when it comes to tolerance we sometimes go too far. We need the maximum level of tolerance, but when sexual minorities want to become a kind of social institution, this is unacceptable. Making homosexuality into a social norm is, for me, unacceptable.”
 
Kęstutis Daukšys: “I am a Catholic; therefore, I agree with all the positions of the Church.”
 
Irena Degutienė: “I support the position of the Church. Homosexuals provoke and challenge society. They overemphasize themselves by demanding special rights, organizing parades, and sending manifestos. They consider themselves to be exceptional, demonstrate their sexual inclinations and then get angry if society does not accept them.”
 
Virginijus Domarkas: “I agree with the Church, although I would not use such drastic phrasing to define this phenomena. I consider homosexuality to be a deviation from the norm. Homosexuality negates the values that have been handed down from generation to generation.”
  
Vytautas Sigitas Draugelis: "My thinking is similar to that of the Church. These people may be ill, they may be unfortunate, but let them keep their sickness to themselves and not publicize it.”
 
Arimantas Dumčius: “My view is in line with the old position of Tėvynės Sąjunga (the Homeland Union). One should not propagate a pathological condition. I say this as a physician.”
 
Kęstutis Glaveckas: “I support the position of the Church because I support classical traditions."
 
Loreta Graužinienė: “There is nothing more that I can add. Of course, I would not go as far as saying that homosexuals are perverts. But in a Catholic country society should support traditional values.”
 
Petras Gražulis: “I support the position of the Church, there is no doubt about it. These people are indeed sick and perverted. They pose a threat to society because they molest children.”
 
Vytautas Galvonas: “I would agree. Nature created man to be natural.”
Vytautas Grubliauskas: “The Church has expressed its position in a public, straightforward and courageous way. As a citizen, I agree with this position. I am not categorically opposed to homosexuality – I accept it as an existing fact. However, it can be tolerated only up to a certain point, as long as it does not become a problem for society. We are not far from that point.”
 
Jonas Jagminas: “In a normal world relations between people should be normal. All normal people agree with this.”
 
Povilas Jakučionis: “I respect traditions. Homosexuality is acceptable neither to traditional families, nor to the Lithuanian nation.”
 
Donatas Jankauskas: “I am a practicing Catholic and agree with the position of the Church.”
 
Juozas Jaruševičius: “I am a Catholic and agree with the Church.”
 
Rasa Juknevičienė: “I agree with the position of the Church.”
 
Jonas Juozapaitis: “I support the Church. After all, homosexuality is so immoral.” 
 
Vaclovas Karbauskis: “The Church has the right to state such a position. In my view, prohibition is not the right way. The aggressive behavior of homosexuals makes me angry. We should not tolerate it. Let them behave like all other members of the society in which they live.”
 
Algis Kašėta: “Since I am a Catholic, the opinion of the Church is usually acceptable for me. I am unequivocally against homosexual marriage.”
 
Gediminas Kirkilas: “I treat the statement of the Church with respect and agree with it. The clergy and statesmen must do everything to strengthen the traditional civilized family.”
 
Egidijus Klumbys: “Homosexuality is a deviation from the norm, and this topic does not merit further discussion.”
 
Romualda Kšanienė: “I support the position of the Church.”
 
Andrius Kubilius: “In principle, I support the position stated by the Church hierarchy. One must bear in mind that the Church assesses the moral problems of society in a most profound way.”
 
Rytas Kupčinskas: “The position of the Church on this issue is serious and very important.”
 
Saulius Lapenas: “We should observe the traditions of the country in which we live. I am not tolerant towards these minorities. Although I agree with the Church, I personally hold very moderate views.”
 
Jonas Lionginas: “In principle, I agree with the position of the Church. Although I am a person with liberal views, I think that homosexual relations are not normal; they are some kind of health disorder.”
 
Vincė Vaidevutė Margevičienė: “It is an illness rather than a perversion. For some people it causes suffering, for others it may bring pleasure. But it is not normal. I agree with the opinion of the Church hierarchy.”
 
Antanas Matulas: “I agree with the Church. As a physician I would say that it is a health problem. I do not support marriage between homosexual people and their right to adopt children. This defies all logic.”
 
Algimantas Matulevičius: “I am against homosexuality. Or, to be more precise, against making it public. Let a man live with another man or a woman with another woman, but why should one make a spectacle out of it? This perverts society and, especially, children.”
  
Valentinas Mazuronis: “On a state level this should not be regarded as normal. Meanwhile, homosexual relations are currently being popularized. The normal family is the basis of the state.”
 
Stasys Mikelis: “I support the Church. It is certainly true that homosexuality is a perversion. This phenomenon is abnormal and should not be open to discussion.”
 
Gintautas Mikolaitis: “I agree with the Church. These people are sick and should be treated; we should not propagate homosexual families.”
 
Dangutė Mikutienė: “I support the position of the Church because family is a fundamental value of religion and the state. Homosexuality is an illness and a problem. Of course, we should not punish those people because they are afflicted with a mental disability.”
 
Zenonas Mikutis: “My views are somewhat more liberal than those of the Church. I think that homosexuality is a mental illness. Everything, after all, depends on the genes. However, what I do not tolerate is when homosexuals exalt themselves above other people. We people of normal orientation are being discriminated against.”
 
Algirdas Monkevičius: “I support the Church because it offers well-founded insights about potential dangers. I am inclined to tolerate homosexuals to a certain extent, as long as they do not try to impose their beliefs on a society that prefers traditional values.”
 
Viktoras Muntianas: “Although the Labor Party does not work hand in hand with the Church, what was said in this case is true. Homosexuality is a perversion.”
 
Vytas Navickas: “Homosexuality contradicts human nature.”
 
Juozas Olekas: “I have not acquainted myself with the position of the Church, but my opinion on the problems of homosexuality is twofold. The World Health Organization has removed homosexuality from its list of illnesses.“
 
Vladimiras Orechovas: “Relations shall be between men and women. If one engages in perverted relations with a person of the same sex, this should be kept quiet and other people should not be propagandized in favor of such a perversion.”
 
Leokadija Počikovska: “I would not judge homosexuality as harshly as the Church. I think it is an illness. No person should be condemned, but I have children and want them to be of the traditional orientation and propagate the human race.”
 
Skirmantas Pabedinskas: “Homosexuals are human beings and they have the right to exist. The Church, however, should have come up with such a statement a long time ago. It is alarming when homosexual relations are advertised to children. This may exert a harmful influence on the younger generation.”
 
Juozas Palionis: “Homosexuality is a clear deviation from the norm. In a democratic society such people may live freely as long as they do not conflict with the interests of society and, in particular, children.”
 
Saulius Pečeliūnas: “I am not categorically against sexual minorities – I can tolerate them. Let them be as long as they do not disturb society and do not encroach upon its moral values. A minority may not dictate its conditions on a majority.”
 
Bronius Pauža: “I agree with the Church with all my heart. I am a Catholic and I cannot do otherwise.”
 
Alfredas Pekeliūnas: “I agree with the Church to some degree. I am against this immense openness – various parades, exceptional rights, marriages. This corrupts the young. Generally speaking, I do not tolerate homosexuals.”
 
Milda Petrauskienė: “There is a lot of truth in the Church’s words. Homosexuals are people, just like the rest of us. Only they are unfortunate. However, I do not support their marriages, rights to adopt children, and I do not like it when they flaunt themselves in this way.”
 
Jonas Pinskus: “I would not appoint a homosexual to a position of responsibility. Of course, each of us has the right to self-determination.”
 
Kazimira Danutė Prunskienė: “I agree with the position of the Church. If mankind followed this path, it would certainly degenerate. For starters, consider the demographic processes.”
 
Jurgis Razma: “For the most part I agree with this sort of assessment. It is very good that the position of the Church is specific and open.”
 
Viktoras Rinkevičius: “Clearly, this not normal. Homosexuality is a disease. I think I support the Church.”
 
Liudvikas Sabu­tis: “My position on this issue is in full agreement with that of the Church. This is a general moral and civil position, and I do not know whether it could be different. In a normal society, all its members must be normal.”
 
Algimantas Salamakinas: “I agree with the Church. Homosexuality has recently been advertised too much. In Lithuania, the homosexuals have stepped up their activities by demanding various rights. This causes concern.”
 
Artūras Skardžius: “Sure, I agree with the Church. I would not want people of traditional orientation to feel that they are in the minority. And this minority should not be given more rights and privileges than the remaining majority of society.”
 
Rimantas Smeto­na: “The Church has finally spoken up publicly about a problem which is more and more actively pushing its way into the life of society. Top officials must also express their opinion. There is, however, a certain fear of talking about this perversion. The opinion that homosexuality is normal was created artificially. Homosexuality is a disease.”
  
Vaclavas Stankevičius: “I would agree with the position of the Church. Society will degenerate, if it does not resist the spread of homosexuality and does not take concrete action.”
 
Aldona Staponkienė: “This is a perversion. In our Catholic country with old values and deep-rooted traditions it cannot be the norm.”
 
Kazys Starkevičius: “They become homosexuals by being pampered and I am not going to tolerate or defend them.”
 
Nijolė Steiblienė: “It is neither sane nor normal; there is no doubt about it. But I think that it is we heterosexuals who have blown this issue of homosexuality out of proportion.”
 
Mindaugas Subačius: “One must understand that homosexuality does not arise out of malevolence. I categorically object to allowing such partnerships to raise children. This is impossible.”
 
Gintaras Šileikis: “Each person has the right to decide for himself. Only we must not allow homosexuals to start dictating their conditions to people of traditional orientation. Their defiant behavior must not be tolerated.”
 
Raimondas Šukys: “I have not seen the text in which the hierarchy of the Church laid down their opinion. I think that there is no clear-cut answer. I look upon homosexuals tolerantly.”
 
Dalia Teišerskytė: “Let us examine the gay manifesto which we all found in the mailboxes of the Seimas. This is a document that society cannot afford to ignore. After all, it threatens to corrupt our sons.”
 
Valdemaras Tomaševskis: “I agree. This phenomenon is defined as a perversion.”
 
Rimvydas Turčinskas: “I agree with the Church. Family is the basis of our state and nation. I do not want conditions for the spread of homosexuality to be created in our country.”
 
Egidijus Vareikis: “Homosexuals try to turn their problems into a global phenomenon; we, on the other hand, should not go out of our way to start exalting their peculiarities.”
 
Vilija Vertelienė: “As a doctor I think that this is a disease. I strictly opposed to homosexual marriage and to giving any special rights to them.”
 
Julius Veselka: “I agree with the Church. Let them do what they want between themselves but they should not be allowed to demonstrate their superiority over others.”
 
Vladimiras Volčiokas: “I agree, of course. I am of the correct sexual orientation. Our country is Christian, after all.”
 
Algirdas Vrubliauskas: “I am a practicing Catholic and agree with the Church. I feel pity for these people but this is a deviation from the norm.”
 
Pranas Vilkas: “I agree. Homosexuality is not acceptable to our Christian nation and it should not be encouraged.”
 
Ramunė Visockytė: “My reaction to the Vatican documents is positive. Homosexuality is not a normal phenomenon. How can you put your sex life on public display? I am against their marriages and against allowing them to adopt children.” 
 
Edvardas Žakaris: “The Church has made a very strong statement. My opinion is not so categorical but in general I agree with the Church, things should be as nature intended.”
 
Henrikas Žukauskas: “This is not only an issue of religion. We are talking about our nationhood. If we have to tolerate their rights, they should respect ours.”
 
Zita Žvikienė: “The homosexuals’ aim to draw attention towards themselves is their attempt to form the opinion that you are no longer normal if you are not one of them. The statements of the Church will force society to pause and think. I support the hierarchy.”
 
Vidmantas Žiemelis: “We Catholics must support the position of the Church. I would not want homosexual marriages to be legalized.”
 
Manfredas Žymantas: “The state is trying to turn a blind eye to this phenomenon hoping that it will disappear by itself. Such a position, however, is to the advantage of the homosexuals because this makes it easier for them to promote themselves. I support the position of the Church.”
 
 
“ABSTAINED”:
 
 
Albertas Sereika: “I neither agree nor disagree with the Church. Generally speaking, I do not attach much importance to this problem.”
 
Valerijus Simulik: “I am neutral. This is something that each person must decide for himself.”
 
Vilija Blinkevičiūtė: “I take a neutral stance on this issue. I am against the propagation and demonstration of homosexuality – in our Catholic society this is unacceptable.”
 
Vytautas Bogušis: “The phenomenon of homosexuality exists whether we like it or not and we should tolerate it instead of meddling in other people’s affairs. On the other hand, the position of the Church is understandable.”
Violeta Boreikienė: “I would not criticize either side. I understand the Church, which defends the history of the state, the family, and values. We do not have the right to condemn these people. In a world that is becoming more modern there are other criteria for making evaluations. I object only to homosexuality being put out in the open, to homosexual parades and their marriages.”
 
Algis Čaplikas: “The Church has expressed its position. We should respect it and should pay attention and listen to those remarks. My position is not so drastic.”
 
Gintaras Steponavičius: “I can comment only to the extent that this statement relates to the Church itself, - it is its internal affair.”
 
Julius Sabatauskas: “There is no state religion. The hierarchy of the Church have their own opinion, which I respect. It would not be appropriate to comment on it.”
 
Raimundas Palaitis: “I have no comment to make, period.”
 
Audronė Pitrėnienė: “I have been traveling, now I am ill and have not been following current developments in our country. I cannot comment.”
 
Vilija Aleknaitė-Abramikienė: “I am tolerant and do not want to comment.”
 
Remigijus Ačas: “I have not looked into this issue.”
 
Aldona Balsienė: “I am not familiar with this position. I would not want to comment.”
 
Andrius Baranauskas: “Oh, no. I do not want to talk on this subject. I do not know what to say.”
 
Valentinas Bukauskas: “I have heard about it but have not looked into this subject. I have no opinion about it.”
 
Audrius Endzinas: “I am not interested in homosexuality. I ignore this problem and discussions about it. This problem has been created artificially.”
 
Gediminas Jakavonis: “I do not have an opinion about the Church’s position because I have not heard it. Myself, I do not have a liking for homosexuals, I do not like it when they flaunt themselves, but otherwise I do not care.”
 
Česlovas Juršėnas: “I did not read it and did not take an interest in it; therefore, I have nothing to say. Ask the others.”
 
Vytautas Kamblevičius: “I have no opinion. I should look into this more deeply.”
 
Justinas Karosas: “I have no position on this issue. I cannot talk about something I know nothing about.”
 
Jonas Ramonas: “Oh, I don’t know. I have no opinion about it.”
 
Alvydas Sadeckas: “I have no opinion. I have nothing to add.”
 
Viačeslavas Škilis: “I have no position on this issue.”
 
Birutė Vėsaitė: “I am on the other side of the world and cannot comment on the events in Lithuania.”
 
 
“AGAINST”:
 
 
Saulius Bucevičius: “I have not looked into this but the statement of the Church seems odd. People’s way of thinking and their views of the world are now different. We will not stop this process. What is the point in such statements?”
 
 
Jonas Čekuolis: “I do not agree with this statement. Under civil law sexual orientation is not a crime. But what should these people do? In Christian and democratic countries they enjoy equal rights with all other citizens. Homosexuality has been accepted as something that one cannot change.”
 
Vilma Martinkaitienė: “The Church is sometimes not humane enough. There needs to be more tolerance towards the disabled and the sick. I think that these people are sick, in a way.”
 
Eligijus Masiulis: “As a liberal, I recognize each individual’s right to freedom of choice as long as this freedom does not interfere with that of others. Homosexuals do not interfere with my freedom.”
 
Laima Mogenienė: "The Church is very conservative; maybe it has to be. I am tolerant. Tolerance is necessary but the homosexuals must understand that their sexuality is not the most important thing in the world.”
 
Algis Rimas: “I, as an individual, find homosexuality weird. I do not understand it. As a member of the Seimas, I view it from a legal perspective. I respect and tolerate only those who do not break the law.”
 
Vytautas Saulis: “I would not agree with the Church. We need to be more tolerant. If someone was born this way, what can you do?”
 
Arminas Lydeka: “It is common knowledge that homosexuality, or to be more precise, paedophilia, is widespread among the clergy. Who can deny that by adopting such a drastic position the Church is trying to improve its image?”
 
Algirdas Paleckis: “My views are social democratic and, first and foremost, democratic. Evidently, nature has intended that 10 per cent of population are homosexual. Besides, homosexuality has been removed from the list of illnesses. When it comes to human rights, I am democratic.”
 
Aušrinė Marija Pavilionienė: “I do not think that it is a perversion. If a person was born homosexual, he will never become different.”
 
Algirdas Sysas: “Doctors say that homosexuality is not a perversion. Neither is it an illness. Although I do not propagate homosexual relations, I do not support the Church’s opinion either.”
 
Ona Valiukevičiūtė: “If such people exist, they have to exist. We have to tolerate them.”
 
Romas Venclovas: “I do not support the position of the Church. I live by my own beliefs. I have nothing to add.”
 
Jadvyga Zinkevičiū­tė: “The Church may offer advice but I do not agree when it tries to form public opinion.”
 
Roma Žakaitienė: “I support human rights and freedoms. I think that even the hierarchy of the Church should not be allowed to voice such strict and categorical statements about sexual orientation, or about faith for that matter.”
 
 
This material has been compiled with reference to publication in daily “Respublika”, by Inga Razmaraite.
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